During their conversation, they reflect on the changing nature of independence and how it varies at different life stages. For Oliver, independence once meant moving out and attending university, but now it’s about contributing as a husband and parent. ‘As a parent and husband, how can I contribute to the household?’ he says. Steph agrees, noting that as responsibilities shift over time, independence remains an ever-evolving journey.

As a stand-up comedian, Oliver faces unique challenges in the world of comedy, from inaccessible venues to seating limitations. “I have to sit in front of the stage, usually in the front row with the audience,” Oliver shares. “But I’ve made that work for myself.” Despite these obstacles, Oliver’s determination shines through, inspiring others in the industry. He recalls a memorable moment when fellow comedian Guy decided to sit on the floor during a show in solidarity with him, highlighting the power—and impact— of inclusivity and adaptation.

Steph and Oliver’s discussion highlights that independence is not about doing everything alone but rather about having the right support to live life on one’s own terms. Oliver sums it up best: “Independence is different to everyone. For me, it’s about knowing who you are and being comfortable with that.”

Through Mable, Oliver has found not just practical support but also meaningful companionship. Steph’s ability to balance practical assistance with emotional support has helped Oliver fully embrace his independence. For those new to seeking support, Oliver’s advice is simple: “Be succinct in your job ad and don’t be afraid to be direct about what you need.”

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